New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. Broly beats Beerus. Goku making a character statement is a moot point since he doesn't know his upper limit either.

No if Goku used Beerus as a measuring stick for strength instead of Jiren, that means that Beerus is more powerful than Jiren. Who is the strongest in a battle (disregarding Hakai)? 1 Takes an Academic Approach to Monsters, VIDEO: How Dragon Ball Z's 'Frieza Saga' Changed the Franchise Forever. Mortal level of the universe is not an indication of strength. And then how does Jiren compare to these? All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. I'm also posting this because the power scaling is screwed up again. I don’t recall it ever being stated or shown he was the weakest. I already covered him in the post. Sam Stone is a 10th level pop culture guru living just outside of Washington, DC who knows an unreasonable amount about The Beatles. Vegeta and Goku were stronger individually when they fused as gogeta then Vegito so gogeta was probably stronger. 42.16% (43 votes) 43. Jiren is > Beerus. We've never seen Beerus go all out, when he does, we'll have conclusive evidence. We never will either most likely. Hey, if Beerus's goal post is moved again, it only serves to automatically move Broly's (and Gogeta's by extension) as well, since Broly is "probably even stronger than Beerus". Post ToP SSB Goku and Vegeta are > ToP SSBE Vegeta and KKx20 Goku since In Broly the ToP happened but the SSB variants don’t exsist. And then Gogeta can stack the SSB multiplier which would shit on jiren. Regular Jiren was already stronger than his GoD and LB Jiren is far more powerful than that. How do they stack up against each other? Little Witch Academia: Will There Be a Season 3.

This is the only one that matters and is needed tbh. Click the button below to start this article in quick view. This is Broly vs Beerus my guy. The statements and promotional material don’t hurt either. That would make him somewhat stronger than Broly already. If you’re gonna argue Beerus is stronger then actually provide some damn evidence. Even if you nitpick every little thing in the Jiren and Broly cases and decide this and that is iffy then they still beat Beerus because little weak argument > no argument. Jiren would have to put down the Legendary Super Saiyan quickly if he wanted to walk away from the truly epic battle, and he could never take his opponent for granted—which, admittedly, was a major flaw of his during the Tournament of Power. But which of the two hulking antagonists would emerge victorious should they never confront one another? Possessing strength equal to a God of Destruction certainly gives Jiren an edge in this regard—in the Super film, Broly was seen unable to land a single blow on Whis who had naturally achieved defensive capabilities similar to Ultra Instinct. These discussions are pointless until Catboi gets off his ass and fights seriously.

•Belmod states Jiren will never lose no matter who he is up against which would include Beerus (reminder: this was before everyone found out Goku was gonna become this ultra instinct master while fighting Jiren). Why do people put so much weight on this? I agree with the sentiment of the post but. we don't know if in Toriyama's notes he had Jiren > Beerus. Jiren is supposedly stronger than Belmold, who has only been a GoD for a few 100 million years vs Beerus' billions.

Via this. So he can dodge, but isn't stronger.) Yes. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. All gods have power level take for example the one with red hair and beard (forget his name ) was the weakest and freeza tanked his destruction energy like at was nothing and look at him against toppo he absolutely stand chance against him and toppo is just candidates u11 god so yes they're are different than each other. Demon Slayer's Box-Office Records Make It a Certified Shonen Phenomenon. But something happened that prevented him from doing so. Broly •Broly has that dimension feat in his fight with Gogeta. So Beerus is probably still at the top. Why do people put so much weight on this? But due to Goku sounding so assured of himself when he said it and having no reason to lie about such a big thing it makes me think he either has seen it sometime off screen or at the very least has a good idea of it by now. Also, Goku told Cheelai that Broly "might be as strong as Beerus".

You can read his work in the pages of Image+, follow him on Twitter @samstoneshow, and listen to his podcast Geek Out Show on iTunes and Google Play. Also Beerus UI is weaker than Goku. Come here to talk about fictional characters, events, concepts, objects, etc. Imo its a 7/10 or so from Beerus cause i see these 3 stumbling over eachother to actually try to achieve anything, and in DB, ever 1.5x stronger is enough to no-sell everything the weaker person has in their arsenal. Jiren beats Beerus. For my money I still wouldn’t bet against Beerus as the strongest as we still haven’t seen him near full power yet. Considering we saw a UI Goku defeat a fused female version of universe 6 Broly, i think Jiren and Goku best Broly. -Goku using the word probably doesn’t disprove anything because it still means that Broly is more likely stronger than Beerus than not which is the important part. Fusion us often very OP. One thing that's important to note is that fighting against Jiren pushed Goku far enough past his normal physical limits that it triggered the longtime Dragon Ball protagonist to transform into his Ultra Instinct state. RELATED: Dragon Ball: How Master Roshi Got His Groove Back. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the CharacterRant community. Ok,so: -Manga Beerus(we know his strenght. He doesn’t count due to the reasons mentioned in the post. However, with a lifetime of rigorous training and nigh unflappable combat discipline, Jiren has a definitive edge against the more raw, uncontrollable Broly. Broly and Jiren are the two strongest opponents Goku has ever fought, likely stronger than Beerus himself judging by the God of Destruction's obvious discomfort watching Jiren fight. Who according to this promotional material.

Its a bit hard to say since we never saw UI Goku fight Broly or Beerus. Its impossible to know who would win between Beerus and Broly/Jiren because we've never seen the upper limits of Beerus's strength. Which makes very little sense IMO. However, with a lifetime of rigorous training and nigh unflappable combat discipline, Jiren has a definitive edge against the more raw, uncontrollable Broly. Finally, at the end of the movie, Goku compares Broly's power to that of Beerus. Post ToP SSB Goku and Vegeta are > ToP SSBE Vegeta and KKx20 Goku since In Broly the ToP happened but the SSB variants don’t exsist. , but fused characters almost always get power drunk, so if not blood lusted I think any of the others could widthstand him. Broly is > Jiren. Broly and Jiren are the two strongest opponents Goku has ever fought, likely stronger than Beerus himself judging by the God of Destruction's obvious discomfort watching Jiren fight.

red hair and beard (forget his name ) was the weakest. Unless they imply something that would later contradict that comparison then Broly and Gogeta get moved up together with Beerus too. The incarnation of the Legendary Super Saiyan in the Super film was even stronger than he had been before, now capable of easily overpowering Goku and Vegeta even after both Saiyans had transformed into Super Saiyan Blue. I would argue the fact that characters keep being compared to Beerus as a measuring stick with the constant THEY MIGHT BE STRONGER THAN BEERUS comments/promotions says a lot more about Beerus than it does about those characters.

For that reason alone I'd rule out our fused heros.

It's main weakness is you have to fight on a timer. Avatar: What Truly Makes a Master Bender? RELATED: Dragon Ball Super: Who Is Monaka, the Anime's GREATEST Hero?

Followed by Jiren and Goku. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. Was it explained? Better feats (that’s not something you always see in Dragon Ball). Cuz it is something which is better than Beerus’s nothing. Post limit breaker Jiren could stomp Pre limit breaker Jiren.

Fullmetal Alchemist: How Did Pride Stay Hidden for Hundreds of Years? The GoDs (Toppo doesn’t count; Toppo isn’t one of the 12 actual official true GoDs that have had who knows how many years of training from an angel; Toppo is just an amateur) have always been portrayed to have no significant difference between them. Broly vs Jiren is another argument for another time. And with Broly able to stand toe-to-toe against Gogeta even with the composite warrior at Super Saiyan Blue, he could likely be Jiren's toughest opponent yet.

This is the only one that matters and is needed tbh. We use what was shown in the show. Broly previously debuted in a trilogy of non-canonical anime films and video game adaptations set during the Dragon Ball Z era. Against such a savage warrior as Broly, to falter even for an instant, even at Jiren's level, could mean a crushing defeat. •Broly has that dimension feat in his fight with Gogeta. Press J to jump to the feed. After all, both Jiren and Broly survived their respective battles against Goku, with both vowing to grow even stronger for an inevitable rematch, so it's entirely likely that a showdown between the two could actually occur in a future adventure.



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